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		<title>By: Clayman</title>
		<link>http://flowerdust.net/2007/05/24/we-know-not-what-we-do/#comment-72823</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,
You are so right about the stigma. I work in prison with many people who are stigmatized with the word &quot;felon&quot; or &quot;drug addict&quot;. It is a black-mark on their lives that will never be removed. My work is to help them get over that and move on.

In order to do that, I must be willing to overlook that black mark myself. When I hear a man tell me that he committed 28 armed robberies in 32 days and was one of DFW&#039;s Most Wanted, I wonder why I&#039;m even working with him. Then he tells me about the events in his life before the robberies. And he tells me about his newfound faith. No, I don&#039;t believe this man needs to be on the streets any time soon, but I do believe every soul is worth loving - regardless of that soul&#039;s past.

Clark Adams is no different. He may have been one of Christianity&#039;s most vocal critics, but so was Saul of Tarsus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,<br />
You are so right about the stigma. I work in prison with many people who are stigmatized with the word &#8220;felon&#8221; or &#8220;drug addict&#8221;. It is a black-mark on their lives that will never be removed. My work is to help them get over that and move on.</p>
<p>In order to do that, I must be willing to overlook that black mark myself. When I hear a man tell me that he committed 28 armed robberies in 32 days and was one of DFW&#8217;s Most Wanted, I wonder why I&#8217;m even working with him. Then he tells me about the events in his life before the robberies. And he tells me about his newfound faith. No, I don&#8217;t believe this man needs to be on the streets any time soon, but I do believe every soul is worth loving &#8211; regardless of that soul&#8217;s past.</p>
<p>Clark Adams is no different. He may have been one of Christianity&#8217;s most vocal critics, but so was Saul of Tarsus.</p>
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		<title>By: anne jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>anne jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jim, thank you for your comment...although a lot of christians might disagree with my thoughts on the topic, i do think clark&#039;s death was tragic and i know i attempt to lead a life respectful of anyone who doesn&#039;t share the same beliefs I do. 

i feel awful for any contribution those who are supposed to live a life of love might have had in his depression and death...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jim, thank you for your comment&#8230;although a lot of christians might disagree with my thoughts on the topic, i do think clark&#8217;s death was tragic and i know i attempt to lead a life respectful of anyone who doesn&#8217;t share the same beliefs I do. </p>
<p>i feel awful for any contribution those who are supposed to live a life of love might have had in his depression and death&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lippard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 20:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Clark Adams ever interpreted &quot;passive disagreement&quot; as a personal attack (in response to &quot;Jordan Like the River&quot; above).

Anne, I appreciate your thoughtful commentary on Clark&#039;s death.  It&#039;s a nice contrast to the type of response I expected, which is exemplified by &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://bygtex.vox.com/library/post/when-one-has-no-hope.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patrick Trotter&lt;/A&gt;:

&quot;This is what happens when someone has no hope or faith. Nothing to Believe in...Nothing or No one to turn to. It&#039;s a shame that a life this young was wasted. It&#039;s also a shame that he spent his whole life, dedicated to waging war against God.

I hope he found peace and salvation before he went.....but with his resume, I doubt it.&quot;

Patrick, who never met Clark, apparently feels confident in attributing his death to a lack of support, and asserting that Clark&#039;s life was &quot;wasted.&quot;  Clark&#039;s life was not wasted--he lived a productive, happy, and full life, though I am saddened that he chose to end it at such a young age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Clark Adams ever interpreted &#8220;passive disagreement&#8221; as a personal attack (in response to &#8220;Jordan Like the River&#8221; above).</p>
<p>Anne, I appreciate your thoughtful commentary on Clark&#8217;s death.  It&#8217;s a nice contrast to the type of response I expected, which is exemplified by <a HREF="http://bygtex.vox.com/library/post/when-one-has-no-hope.html" rel="nofollow">Patrick Trotter</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is what happens when someone has no hope or faith. Nothing to Believe in&#8230;Nothing or No one to turn to. It&#8217;s a shame that a life this young was wasted. It&#8217;s also a shame that he spent his whole life, dedicated to waging war against God.</p>
<p>I hope he found peace and salvation before he went&#8230;..but with his resume, I doubt it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Patrick, who never met Clark, apparently feels confident in attributing his death to a lack of support, and asserting that Clark&#8217;s life was &#8220;wasted.&#8221;  Clark&#8217;s life was not wasted&#8211;he lived a productive, happy, and full life, though I am saddened that he chose to end it at such a young age.</p>
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		<title>By: noefool</title>
		<link>http://flowerdust.net/2007/05/24/we-know-not-what-we-do/#comment-66609</link>
		<dc:creator>noefool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 03:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;re to love at all people at all times.  period.  end of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re to love at all people at all times.  period.  end of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 00:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way, for robin...
It was Brennan Manning. Excellent author. dc Talk used a soundbite from him.

&quot;The greatest single cause of atheism in the world is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door, and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way, for robin&#8230;<br />
It was Brennan Manning. Excellent author. dc Talk used a soundbite from him.</p>
<p>&#8220;The greatest single cause of atheism in the world is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door, and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.&#8221;</p>
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